I don't have experience with socialized medicine except for in Australia. I can't speak for Canada, Englad, Scotland because I haven't lived there. But I can tell you what I, as an American citizen, experienced.
I got sick and called to see my in-laws family doctor. They made an appointment for me that day and told me if I couldn't go there, that he would come out to my house that day. I went to see him and he made a medical file for me, checked me over, and prescribed me medicine. I went to the counter afterwards and asked how much I owed and was chuckled at and told I didn't owe anything. I went to the chemist (pharmacy) and turned in my prescription and asked how much it would be. They looked at me like I was crazy, handed me my meds and wished me better.
Universal healthcare story: My friend was mugged and hit over the head with a saw horse. He went to the emergency room and the waiting room was packed with people. Must have been at least 35 people. Being from Texas, I expected to live there but by the time I was done eating the KFC my in-laws brought for us, he was seen and ready to go home. That was 2 hours total from walking in to walking out.
A US hospital story: I was pregnant about a year ago and started bleeding (sorry guys!) and sat in the emergency room for 5 hours before they even triaged me. Someone with a sore wrist went before me. They claim to triage based on the urgency of the condition. I don't know about you folks, but I'd let my sore wrist wait for a bleeding pregnant woman to be seen.
Another US hospital story: I had smoke inhalation from a house fire and waited 10 hours to be seen. About an hour before they took me back, this old rich guy walked in (no limp) and said his knee was sore from an old injury. Within 10 minutes, he had been to x-ray and had an ice pack for his knee. Where was my oxygen? My blood oxygen level was almost 90%.
BTW, I pay for insurance. I was paying over $500 a month for coverage so it's not like I walked in there with no intent to pay.
I know people say "well if you need a transplant, you go on a waiting list and could die before you get the surgery in countries with socialized medicine". I love to break it to you, but there's a wait list here too. If you need surgery for your appendix, for example, they schedule you and it gets done quickly. Things like plastic surgery and such take a while, but when it's for vanity, who cares? You won't die if you don't go from a AA cup to a DD cup within a week.
Sure doctors won't make as much here, I guess, but the thing about the socialized medicine where I've experienced it is that doctors get bonuses when their patients are healthy and stay healthy. It's an incentive to cure people and not just treat symptoms. Here in the states, doctors get a cut when they patients have to stay on meds and keep coming back.
So those of you that are strongly against socialized medicine would rather have a doctor that would prefer to keep you on meds so they can afford payments on their 3rd house rather than a doctor that makes more money when he cures you?
Anyway, there's some examples of socialized medicine vs US medicine for you. Your choice is just that, but at least make an informed decision and don't just be another sheep of the big wigs in the govt that want to scare you out of it.
I'm an Australian health professional and I'm glad you liked our system. Personally I find it excellent - we have A1 healthcare with very little waiting and at minimal cost to taxpayers, a fair bit less than US taxpayers pay. Our pharmaceutical system in particular is very effective, the government use an evidence based system to buy medicines in bulk and cut out all the 'me too' medicines that are available, at huge savings.
Every day I electronically claim payment for my services to the government via Medicare and I receive payment the next day. We have some of the best medical statistics in the world, eg life expectancy, infant mortality etc. Waiting is usually only required for some non-urgent elective surgery such as cataract surgery for up to a year, and the wait can always be avoided by paying for the procedure privately.
Socialized medicine is a nice idea but the facts are that it's just too expensive and people are getting tired of paying for other people's govt handouts.
I like your view.
Maybe if you had not had wait for all of the illegals to be seen, you would have been seen sooner. Maybe if it were not for all of illegals running the OTHER emergency rooms out of business by NOT PAYING!, you would have been seen sooner.
It has nothing to do with social medicine, it has EVERYTHING to do with law breaking border jumpers!
K great, so it works in Australia..you were not a citizen there and those citizens had to pay for it for you...I don't want to pay for someone elses health care and I don't want the government in complete charge of mine. sorry.
if you want to know how our government runs hospitals, just look at the military and veterans hospitals. I grew up in a military family, and spent more than my fair share of time sitting in waiting rooms that were built during WW11 and had lead paint on the walls. How can he have socialized medicine for the public then make veterans go to private insurance companies.
That's all very anecdotal, and, by your own admission, you don't really have experience with socialized health care. So, let's make an informed decision and not just be another sheep of the left that want to scare you into it.
Are you trying to sell us on the pluses for socialized medicine? It sounds that way.
Apparently, your situation in Australia wasn't a life or death dilemma. Everyone under social medicine will receive the scantest of care and yes, you do wait...and wait...and wait. Perhaps you hit a rare lull that particular day.
Though the U.S. has very expensive health care cost, it's still the best in the world - even for those who are uninsured.
I don't want govt jerks telling my doctor what treatment will be acceptable should I need emergency surgery.
Former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher once stated that socialism is "spending every one elses money until they run out of money". I don't want that here.
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